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Unofficial Mon, Nov 8, 2010 Nov 8, 2010Tama Hills


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4,770 Meters Varsity

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4,770 Meters Varsity

    Results for 2010 Far East  Tama Hills, "Takeyabu Trail"  4770 meter course (230 meters short). 
  Add 52 seconds to boys winner Kelly to approximate his 5000 meter time, and add 62 seconds to Amanda to approximate her 5000 meter time.
  Slower runners would need slightly more time.
 Men  Far East Both Divisions Combined
 place    score
         (top 4)    top 5 places   top 5 ave.     top 5 
                                   4770 meters   spread
  1..  27 CAJ       3  5  7 12 26    17:54.9     1:39.0
  2..  36 St Mary's 1  6 10 19 41    18:00.1     2:47.3
  3..  39 Kinnick   4  8 13 14 28    18:05.9     1:39.2
  4..  45 Kadena    2  9 16 18 25    18:04.1     1:40.4
  5..  71 Kubasaki 11 17 21 22 37    18:30.8     1:19.5
  6.. 106 SeoulAm  15 24 27 40 54    19:04.4     2:02.5
  7.. 140 St. Maur 20 33 43 44 47    19:20.6     1:30.2
  8.. 148 Perry    29 35 39 45 57    19:37.7     1:34.2
  9.. 155 Guam HS  23 38 46 48 58    19:41.7     2:17.5
 10.. 171 Osan     30 34 51 56 62    19:59.8     1:59.2
 11.. 173 Yokota   32 42 49 50 55    19:47.9     1:12.0
 12.. 220 FDMS     31 60 64 65 70    21:19.7     3:40.3
 13.. 225 Edgren   36 59 63 67 68    21:16.2     3:09.9
 14.. 232 King     52 53 61 66 69    21:12.0     2:25.3
   Dageu less than 4 runners
   Zama less than 4 runners
For comparison, on the carefully measured API 5000 meter
course in Guam, in very muddy condtions:
                        1 St. Mary's 18:48       2:32.8
                        2 CAJ        18:38      (only 4)
                        3 ASIJ       18:48.6     1:32
                        4 Faith      19:27.6     1:45
                       13 Guam       20:30      (only 4)
 WOMEN Far East Both Divisions Combined
 place    score
         (top 4)    top 5 places     top 5 ave.   top 5 
                                    4770 meters   spread
  1..  26 Kadena    5  6  7  8  9     21:15.5    0:59.4
  2..  32 SeoulAm   1  2 11 18        (less than 5)
  3..  64 Kinnick   4 19 20 21 44     22:59.9    4:24.2
  4..  83 Guam HS   3 22 25 33        (less than 5)
  5..  88 Kubasaki 10 12 32 34 38     23:33.8    3:00.5
  6..  94 Yokota   14 17 27 36 37     23:44.0    2:15.9
  7.. 102 Osan     13 24 26 39 45     24:07.3    3:00.0
  8.. 113 St. Maur 15 23 35 40 50     24:23.1    3:51.0
  9.. 135 Edgren   16 30 41 48 53     24:53.1    3:57.5
 10.. 149 CAJ      29 31 43 46 47     25:04.1    1:57.9
 11.. 185 Zama     28 51 52 54        (less than 5)
 12.. 202 King     42 49 55 56 57     27:52.9 6:07.9
     Dageu less than 4 runners
     Perry less than 4 runners


For comparison, on the carefully measured API 5000 meter
course in Guam, in very muddy condtions:
                        1 Seisen      21:29.7   1:58.9
                        2 ASIJ        22:37.9   2:40.9
                        3 Hong Kong I 22:53     4:06
                        4 Guam        23:10   
 Men Far East Division I only
1.. 27 CAJ       3  5  7 12 25
2.. 36 St Mary's 1  6 10 19 33 
3.. 39 Kinnick   4  8 13 14 27 
4.. 45 Kadena    2  9 16 18 24 
5.. 69 Kubasaki 11 17 20 21 30
6.. 96 SeoulAm  15 23 26 32 39
7..124 Guam HS  22 31 35 36 41 
8..138 Yokota   29 34 37 38 40
9..157 FatherDMS28 42 43 44 45 
 WOMEN Far East Division I only 
 1.. 26 Kadena     5  6  7  8  9 
 2.. 29 SeoulAm    1  2 11 15
 3.. 55 Kinnick    4 16 17 18 31 
 4.. 67 Guam HS    3 19 20 25
 5.. 72 Kubasaki  10 12 24 26 29 
 6.. 75 Yokota    13 14 21 27 28 
 7..107 CAJ       22 23 30 32 33 
 Men Far East Division II only 3 scoring
1.. 14 St. Maur 1  4  9 10 12
2.. 16 Perry    2  6  8 11 17 
3.. 21 Osan     3  5 13 16 20 
4.. 46 Edgren   7 18 21 23 24 
5.. 48 King    14 15 19 22 25 3
  Daegu less than 3 runners
  Zama less than 3 runners
 Women Far East Division II only          
 1.. 12 Osan      1  5  6 10 14 
 2.. 15 St. Maur  2  4  9 11 18 
 3.. 23 Edgren    3  8 12 16 21  
 4.. 46 Zama      7 19 20 22
 5.. 54 King     13 17 24 25 27  
 6.. 64 Perry    15 23 26
     Daegu less than 3 runners
2010 Far East Overall Results
Division I Boys Girls Relay Overall
Kadena   1  3    1     2    6
SAHS     2  5    2     1    8
Kinnick  3  2    3     3    8
Kubasaki 4  4    5     4   13
GHS      5  6    4     5   15
CAJ      6  1    7     7   15
Yokota   7  7    6     6   19
St Mary's - 
Father Duenas

Division II Boys Girls Relay Overall
St. Maur 1   1    2      1     4
Osan     2   3    1      2     6
Edgren   3   4    3      3    10
Perry    4   2    5      4    11
King     5   5    4      5    14
Check out the European (including DODDS) High School Championships. 5000 meters.
Top 6 boys 16:24-16:56, top 12 under 17:00.  Girls Top Runner at 19:45, the next 11 between 20:16 and 20:59.

Read October 30 European Championships race review from Stars and Stripes .
32 teams competed in 3 divisions for the right to be champion. Some day maybe we in the Pacific can have a region-wide championship too.

Kanto Tama Hills "Takeyabu Trail" (bamboo grove trail)
Course has been selected To Be Far East Course 2010


Due to circiumstances, the 2010 Far East course version came out at about 4720 meters.
The times below reflect the 5000 meter version (which would be 52-90 seconds slower), run on October 4, 2008, the only time it has been run. The 2008 course had almost 180 meters more trail run and 25 meters farther to left of Gut Hill.
  Time Name School    
1 21:47.1 Nadine Mulvany Kinnick   2008
2 22:09.4 Krysta Carrick CAJ   2008
3 22:16.5 Wynne Callon ASIJ   2008
4 22:31.3 Marisa Foxwell CAJ   2008
5 22:32.3 Emiri Dandoy ASIJ   2008
6 22:35.3 Arisa Ishikawa ASIJ   2008
7 22:36.5 Kana Maeji ASIJ   2008
8 22:55.0 Hikari Morimoto CAJ   2008
9 23:27.3 Mallarie Ashliman Zama   2008
10 23:27.3 Brittany Evans Kinnick   2008
  Time Name School    
1 18:14.2 William Traufler Kinnick   2008
2 18:35.9 Samuel Krauth ASIJ   2008
3 18:52.5 Erick Ellison CAJ   2008
4 18:53.8 Jared Johnson CAJ   2008
5 19:08.5 Jimmy Niescier Yokota   2008
6 19:16.0 Seikichi Kuma CAJ   2008
7 19:20.2 Benjamin Smith
ASIJ   2008
8 19:20.8 David Bailey Kinnick   2008
9 19:31.2 Jesse Arnold Kinnick   2008
10 19:39.2 Yuto Watanabe ASIJ   2008
Prepared by Bruce Carrick; updated Nov 10, 2010.

Kanto Tama Hills 5000 meter - All Courses Combined
combined all-time List for all three 5000m variations:
"Takeyabu Trail" in 2008 & 2 versions of  "regular street" courses used in Far East 2000 & on Oct. 2, 2010
the short Far East 2010 will not be inserted into this list

You will note that no matter how we run 5000m at Tama Hills, the course is very challenging with slow times.
  Time Name School    
  21:12 Genevieve Flores GW   2000
  21:16 Christine Vicente JFK   2000
  21:17 Jocelyn Pardilla JFK   2000
  21:28 Julia Steele ASIJ   2000
  21:47 Nadine Mulvany Kinnick 2008  
  22:01 Marion Grossman ISSH   2000
  22:09.4 Krysta Carrick CAJ 2008  
  22.15.1 Carydaliz Fontanez Kinnick 2010  
  22:15.5 Hannah Rosenfeld ASIJ   2000
  22:16.5 Wynne Callon ASIJ 2008  
  22:30 Arisa Ishikawa ASIJ 2010  
  22:31.3 Marisa Foxwell CAJ 2008  
  22:32.3 Emiri Dandoy ASIJ 2008  
  22:36 Kana Maeji ASIJ 2008  
  22:48 Ellen Gogerty ASIJ   2000
  22:52 Melanie Graham Osan   2000
  22:55 Hikari Morimoto CAJ 2008  
  23:07.3 Bessie Noll ASIJ 2010  
  23:08.6 Izzy Ballet ASIJ 2010  
  23:12 Ramona Nelson JFK   2000
  23:12 Erika Sloan ASIJ   2000
  23:14.8 Rickey Fukazawa ISSH 2010  
  23:15 Kim Carrick CAJ   2000
  Time Name School    
  17:11.2 Jared Johnson CAJ 2010  
  17:15.2 Kelly Langley StMarys 2010  
  17:26.1 Trevor Maggart ASIJ 2010  
  17:39.3 Masanari Yoshida StMarys 2010  
  17:40 Ian Novick St Maur   2000
  18:02.5 Jin Marks StMarys 2010  
  18:03 David Gogerty ASIJ   2000
  18:11 Christian Balnes JFK   2000
  18:14.2 William Traufler Kinnick 2008 2000
  18:15.9 David Bailey Kinnick 2010  
  18:20 Toby Castro GW   2000
  18:20.3 Daniel Buckley YIS 2010  
  18:24 David VanderHaak CAJ 2010  
  18:28.9 Kai Layden ASIJ 2010  
  18:31.3 Tsubasa Kaneko CAJ 2010  
  18:33.5 Koh Terai St.Marys 2010  
  18:35.9 Samuel Krauth ASIJ 2008  
  18:38 Matt Regier CAJ   2000
  18:41.8 Jeremy Proctor ASIJ 2010  
  18:42.8 Jun Sekiya YIS 2010  
  18:43 Naoto Skorick StMarys   2000

Prepared by Bruce Carrick; updated Oct 26, 2010.

Below are results for 2010 Far East  Tama Hills, "Takeyabu Trail"  4770 meter course (230 meters short). 
  Add 52 seconds to boys winner Kelly to approximate his 5000 meter time, and add 62 seconds to Amanda to approximate her 5000 meter time.
  Slower runners would need slightly more time.

Dave Ornauer wrote in his Stripes blog on Sept. 8:

 "International schools long dominated Far East in the 1980s and ’90s. [Kadena coach] McKinney said he’s interested in how DODDS teams will stack up after a seven-year absence."

November 2 boys race preview from Stars and Stripes
November 2 girls race preview from Stars and Stripes
Read November 4 Ornauer's Far East Preview from Stars and Stripes.
Read November 8 Day One Report from Stars and Stripes.
Read November 8 Day One summary from Stars and Stripes sports blog.
Read November 8 Day Two Report from Stars and Stripes.

Problem: 
What the API course does with mud swamp-like conditions, Tama Hills does with hills, moss and uneven surface. Kanto international schools never get to run on the fast courses like Edgren's, or Isanoura Park, Nagasaki, or Okkodo home course, or Kishaba Housing Course, or Kadena Jack's Place Course, or International Christian School-Uijongbu Home Course. How can we compare Kanto team performances to the blistering fast DODDs races, some of which produce blazingly fast times?

Solutions:
Method one:
use the Korean runners as a baseline. Those Korean school athletes who ran 5000 meters at API 2010 then the next week ran 5000 meters at the KAIAC championships on ICS-Uijongbu course (9 boys, 6 girls all top 20 at KAIAC) ran 99 seconds faster (boys) and 56 seconds faster (girls) on the KAIAC course. So for Kanto athletes, subtract 99 or 56 from their own API time; the results project how the Kanto athletes might have done on the ICS-Uijongbu course.

Method two:    Compare with specific schools in head-to-head match ups, looking at 1st and 5th runner on the mutual course then interpolate results on 5000 meter courses.   Using George Washington (at API and their best on various other 5000 meter courses), or Kinnick (at Kanto Finals and their best on various other 5000 meter courses) or  Edgren-Perry teams at (at Kanto FInals and their best on various other 5000 meter courses).

Methods applied to:
St Mary's top 5  calculated using   Korean schools:   15:34-18:06;  GW match-up 16:02-17:34  Kinnick: 15:50-17:05; Edgren-Perry: 15:10-16:20
CAJ boys top 5  calculated using   Korean schools:  15:45-17:45;  GW match-up 16:23-17:20  Kinnick: 16:10-17:10; Edgren-Perry: 15:30-16:20   Kadena boys                          top 5 actual range      16:18-18:18

Seisen girls top 4   calculated using   Korean schools:     19:30 - 20:46  - this is a lot faster than the hypothetical-race link below.
ASIJ girls    top 4   
calculated using   Korean schools:    20:14 - 22:20
Seoul American                                 actual top 4          20:29 - 21:30
Kadena girls                                       actual top 4         20:29 - 22:09

Each method has its weaknesses and none is perfect; but they do all work off of some form of head-to-head competition on a common course. Only the Korean method retain's CAJ's, SM's and Seisen's actual spread. The others are affected by the baseline teams getting superb performances by their 5th man at least once in the season but not at API or Kanto Finals.

For hypothetical Pacific-wide team competition based on 5000 meter courses in 2010, click here for men's race. This link sometimes does not function, as the Stateside servers often do maintenance routines during our Pacific daytime hours.

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Uninvited - Who won't be at Far East but should be:
      Individuals.   12 of the top 15 at KAIAC Finals; 6 of the top 20 at Kanto Finals; 
3 of the top 10 at OAC District Finals; 11 of the top 20 at API .    Michael Gaitan (George Washington), Peter Kim Moon (Seoul International), Trevor Maggart, Jeremy Proctor, Kai Layden, George Dornbach & Michael Godbout (all 5 ASIJ), Alexander Ott & Christien Laible(HongKong Inter'l), Luke Seaborn & Jesse Caldwell (Faith Academy) , Charles Zhang & Malekai Mischke (Int'l School of Beijing) (top 21 at Guam API).
Others who are top 15 regionally or top ten in their league: Mashu Wakita (Zion),  Japheth DeVries & Mickey Kumar (IC-U), Roland Umoru & Joelmir Dombe(Yongsan),  Kyu Park (KIS),  Jakob Alejandre & Owen Underwood (Seoul Foreign)
      Teams:    API #3 ASIJ, API #4 Faith Academy, API #5 Hong Kong International, API #6 Shanghai American Puxi, API #7 International School Beijing, API #8 George Washington, API #10 and KAIAC Champ Seoul Foreign.

For hypothetical Pacific-wide team competiton based on 5000 meter courses in 2010, click here for women's race

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Uninvited - Who won't be at Far East but should be:
      Individuals
.   6 of the top 15 at KAIAC Finals; 16 of the top 20 at Kanto Finals;  3 of the top 10 at OAC District Finals; 18 of the top 20 at API .  
   API top 15:  Madeline Strandemo, Guam API Champion and record holder;  Fumi Kurihara, Theresa Kern, Monie Bishop, Lisa Kwak & Megan Keohane (all Seisen), Naomi Blaz (GW), Bessie Noll, Arisa Ishikawa (ASIJ), Casey Sullivan (IS Beijing), Elsie Chung (Yongsan), Brenda Lee (Shanghai American Pudong).
Others who are top regionally or top 10 in their league finals: Ruby Hohensee, Linda Kim & Radhika Agarwal (Singapore American), Victoria Chi (Taipei American), Teauna Baker (Zion), Kimmie Casto (Yongsan),  Samantha Kim (Seoul Foreign).
       Teams:   API #1 Seisen, API #2 ASIJ, API #3 Hong Kong International,  API #5 International School Beijing, API #6 Shanghai American Pudong,  API #7 George Washington;  API #10 and KAIAC runner-up Seoul Foreign; also Pacific #3 Singapore American.

(Oct. 31, 2010  Bruce Carrick)

Rankings Caveat:  Please note that the automatically computer-generated Pacific "rankings" mentioned here are highly dependent on accurate course measurement and factors of terrain and weather. Also  the rankings are based on 5 runners, while the API and Far East meets score only 4 runners for the large schools, 3 for the small schools.
Wednesday November 3, Tokyo High School Ekiden Championships and national championship qualifier.
Most teams put their most talented runners in the longest portions of the relays, so the 3k and 4k (and boys 5k) legs are relatively slow.
7 boys = full marathon. Top times among boys:  10k= 31:25,   8.1k = 25:09,   5k = 15:15,   3k = 8:48. 
5 girls = half marathon. Top times among girls:    6k = 20:23,     5k = 17:31,   4k = 14:00,   3k = 10:07.    
Read more about Tokyo High School Ekiden.

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